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Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  2 Jun 92       Volume 10 : Issue 133

Today's Topics:

      [*] Print2Pict3.0
      [Q] Convert QuickTime pictures into PICT
      About SANE
      AD and Virus Checkers/Optimizers
      Apologies to Quickback
      Can you create a PICT image from postscript code (A)
      Deskwriter C Appletalk driver (Q)
      diagnostic software
      Endnote and Word and Nisus
      Ethernet and LocalTalk connections (C)
      Finder Layouts in System 7
      French Dictionary on CD-ROM (Q)
      Golf Handicapping on a Macintosh
      hard drive stiction (and cold heads)
      Hebrew-US hybred system
      Info on Apple Israel (q)
      init programming
      Installers and updaters
      Looking for old version of OIDS game
      MacClassic
      Mac related stores in Muenchen, Germany
      MacTools DeLuxe / Central Point Software
      Mirroring Software (Q)
      Monitor size (Q)
      MORE "Upgrade" offer from tiger software
      More Disk Space (Q)
      My query on Marble Madness
      None
      Object oriented Pascal successfully called from ancient modula 2 implementation!
      Polish TrueType Font
      Quicktime, compression, QT Batch compressor (Q)
      Remote Appletalk (Q)
      Restoring icons in System 7
      Screen updates stop with random disk accesses
      Sending email to the UK (and york.ac.uk/uk.ac.york)
      Sending email to the UK (C)
      Subscribing?
      SuperCard Xcmd for QuickTime please!
      SuperClock
      System 7.0.1 Freezing?
      Teaching RAM vs. Disk Space
      Tiger Software (C)
      Type -39 Error
      Unix tar.Z format [Q]
      Unix tar.Z format [R]
      Virtus Walkthrough Demo
      WORD-MAC, how to (re-)subscribe
      Word 5 and typeing delays

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Date: Sun, 31 May 92 16:27:26 BST
From: [e-mail] (Baudouin Raoult)
Subject: [*] Print2Pict3.0

This is version 3.0 of Print2Pict. It is a printer driver that previews
and saves printed pages to PICT files or the clipboard.
It works only under System 7 or later.

Drop it in your extensions folder and select it with the Chooser.

It has an on-line help you can copy to the clipboard and print using any
word processor. It also supports Balloon Help.

- Description:

The PICT file format is the standard format for saving pictures on a
Macintosh. Most of the graphical applications can read these files.

If you copy a page to the clipboard, it can be paste into any document that
can include pictures.

You can use Print2Pict with any application that prints using
the standard Macintosh interface.

- What's new in version 3.0 ?

 % Color and high resolution pictures when possible.
 % Custom "paper" sizes.
 % Full support of System 7's Balloon Help.
 % Any scale factors in the preview window.
 % Use of extensions to add new functionality:

- Print to MacPaint file: The pages  are saved in MacPaint format.
- Print to PICS: The pages are saved as the frames of a PICS movie.
- Print to text: The text is extracted from the pages and saved in a text file.
- PostCard: The pages are saved into a standalone application.
You can edit a complex document with a DTP software, and then "print"
it as a "PostCard". This postcard can then be sent to anyone,
who can read it and print it without the DTP software.

replaces /info-mac/ex/print-2-pict-20.hqx

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/print-2-pict-30.hqx; 102K]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 13:33:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [Q] Convert QuickTime pictures into PICT

Is there any such animal that will take QuickTime pictures and convert them
to PICT or other PageMaker importable format?

I have a series of QuickTime pictures from _A la rencontre de Philippe_
that I need to convert into EPS files using PageMaker.

Please contact me directly, because I don't read this newsgroup all the time.

Thank you...

Adam Conn
Chief Casewriter
VVS Project

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 18:16 MET
From: Max <[e-mail]>
Subject: About SANE

Does anyone know how to use SANE library in THINK C 5.0
environment?
-I have some problem during "linking" in files sane2.c and sane4.c.
-How to use "extended nan( short )" function in order to discover
    error 17 ( attempt to convert invalid ASCII string )?
Thanks in advance,
    -Massimo-

E-MAIL:[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 20:04:04 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AD and Virus Checkers/Optimizers

Folks, I must recant whatever naughty words I said about Norton 2 (versus
MacTools 2), especially re Speed Disk. Running MacTools Optimizer today
after my monthly backup, I went Hmmmm?!? when it found only four apps on
my hard disk. Actually I said more than that. But I had put AutoDoubler
on the 1.44M System 7 Optimizer boot disk. Aha! Eureka! Et Cetera! Auto-
Doubler only fakes out the Finder. The 1.44M Sys/7 boot disk doesn't have
a Finder. No way to put a Finder on that puppy and leave room for an app.
Everything not in the System Folder was a *document* to optimizer.

OK, I'll put System 6 (System and Finder) on a 1.44M boot floppy and then
put on both AutoDoubler and MacTools Optimizer. Also put on Desktop Mgr
and 32-bit QuickDraw. MacTools Optimizer told me its disk was dead. OK,
I've had state-contract disks die before, much more frequently than a
reputable brand. Break disk, trash it, and try another. Same thing. Huh?
I'm slow, but I *can* learn. I replaced CP Optimizer on the floppy with
Norton 2's Speed Disk. Worked like a charm. AND rebooting the HD later
did NOT yield any snot nosed messages from AD or DD that they had been
apparently illegally copied. No, I've no idea why I got that the first
time I used Norton 2's Speed Disk.

Incidental intelligence: SAM from a boot disk will also not recognize an
AutoDoubled file unless the boot disk has both a System and Finder -- and
AutoDoubler. SAM -- and every other virus program -- cannot see a virus
signature in a compressed file.

Makes for a major pain when dealing with machines that refuse to boot
under anything "less" than System 7.01. If one of those puppies has AD
installed, it can be neither optimized nor virus-checked if it has only
one floppy drive.

I hate computers.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 10:22:16 IST
From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apologies to Quickback

I tried to post this previously but don't think it
made it through the net:

In a previous letter I noted that I was trying out
Quickback and found that my backed up files were
larger than the originals and that if I backed up
again immediately then it would see changes where there
were none.

Actually, it was not Quickback at fault at all...

I tried copying the files from my MacIIci (system 7)
to the server (a PC running novel) via appletalk, and
the directly copied files ballooned in size.

Does anyone out there know why this would happen?

I copied the things back and they resumed their original
size.  There are no known viruses on my Mac or server
(touch plastic)....

I have a feeling that it has something to do with the
memory allocation for Mac files on the PC ???

Thanks for any suggestions....mike

Materials Engineering, Technion    Tel: [phone]
Haifa, Israel 32000                Fax: [phone]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 08:45:57 EDT
From: [e-mail] (halsema pb 64533)
Subject: Can you create a PICT image from postscript code (A)

Subject: Re: Can you create a PICT image from postscript code (A)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Organization: Harris ESS, Melbourne, Fla.

In article Info-Mac Digest V10 #129 you asked about ways to get a
postscript file into PICT format.  Two approaches come to mind:

   1) use the ppm utilities on unix.  I believe that ps to ppm and
      ppm to pict converters are part of the distribution.

   2) Import into Illustrator or another program and print using the
       print2pict printer driver.  This should provide you with a valid
       pict file that you can now edit to your hearts content.

Cheers,  Paul -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 10:44 PDT
From: Ed Costello <[e-mail]>
Subject: Deskwriter C Appletalk driver (Q)

Greetings,
    Does anyone know of an Appletalk driver for the HP Deskwriter C?  I have
a Plus and a IIci that are connected.  The DWC is also connected to the same
Appletalk LAN, but I have to use the B&W printer driver if I want to share the
printer.  Any help?

Thanks,

- Ed

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Date: Mon,  1 Jun 1992 11:50:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bryan Michael Kearney <[e-mail]>
Subject: diagnostic software

Can anyone give a reccomendation about diagnostic software for the
macintosh. I know of two programs Help! and Snooper. I have used Help!
but not Snooper. Does anyone have any preferences, or can reccomend
another. Thanx in advance.


-- bk

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 10:56:06
From: [e-mail] (Herbert Kroemer)
Subject: Endnote and Word and Nisus

On Thu, 28 May 1992 15:56:05 GMT, Albrecht Hofneinz asked:

>Does Endnote Plus read MS Word's (4 and 5) footnotes?
>How does it work with Nisus?

#1: No! Word's footnotes and Endnote live in different worlds. Other
than that, the new Endnote Plug-in Module for Word 5 is a
dream-come-true, even better than the old EndNote under Word 4 (or under
WriteNow).

#2: Endnote treats Nisus documents as if they were pure ACSCII: You lose
all formating, such as fonts, italics, boldfacing, sub- and
superscripts. It is my understanding that the EndNote people would like
to make EndNote fully Nisus-compatible, but don't have the necessary
format information.

The EndNote issue was one of my reasons why I upgraded from Word 4 to
Word 5, and dropped Nisus, which I had used alongside with Word 4.

Hope that helps!

Herb K.

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 08:23:12 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Wade Williams)
Subject: Ethernet and LocalTalk connections (C)

>>No, you cannot.  Incidentally, that doesn't apply only to Quadras, it
>>applies to any Mac.

>-- sound of loud buzzer ---
>Your answer is incorrect.
>The correct answer is: Yes you can if you install the Apple Internet Router
>on your Mac. Your Mac becomes a router between EtherTalk and the
>LaserWriter on your LocalTalk.

-- sound of even louder buzzer ---
Sorry, my answer was quite correct.
1)  The question was asked in the context of not having to buy
additional software.
2)  Running a router in the background of your Mac can slow it down,
especially if you're routing for more than just your Mac.  Generally,
most people would not consider this an option.

Again, without a router, you cannot have an EtherTalk Ethernet
connection and a LocalTalk connection active at the same time.

Wade Williams
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 09:51:57
From: [e-mail] (Dieder Bylsma)
Subject: Finder Layouts in System 7

Quick query: Is there anyway to really edit the finder layout in System
7 to the degree that system  6 allowed you to? I mean beyond what the
'views' control panel does...

Also, is there ANYWAY at all to overcome the gridding system that the
finder has when you tell it to clean up? I appreciate being able to read
all the file-names, but in some instances, the icons will do just fine,
and the names are not so important. System 6 does a nice job cleaning up
the icons in a nice grid-like fashion, and I rather like its job better.
Also, is there any equivalent to Finder 6.0x's 'Clean-Up Selection'?

D.

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 16:41 GMT
From: GEOFF WALL <[e-mail]>
Subject: French Dictionary on CD-ROM (Q)

Can anyone supply details of French Dictionaries currently available
on CD-ROM?
 for the Mac... I'm interested in French-French dictionaries,
like LEXIS or LE PETIT ROBERT.

Geoff Wall
Dept of English
University of York

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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 92 03:12:09 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Golf Handicapping on a Macintosh

Does anyone out there know of a software program that can be used to enter
golf scores and maintain a handicap system for a group of golfers?  The name
of a software company or shareware individual would be appreciated.

I'm not on the digest mailing list so would appreciate an e-mail reply to

[e-mail]

Thanks in advance,

Jim

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 09:00:04 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: hard drive stiction (and cold heads)

>If your drive is a Quantum as many of Apple's drives are, and you've had it
>for more than 3 years, then take it to your Apple service center and have them
>install the new ROMs for that drive.  The new ROMs apply more touque to the
                                                               ^^^^^^
>drive on a cold start.  This should be a free service, but I could be wrong.

Hmm. Should work, I suppose. After all, my touque keeps me warm on a cold
start -er, day.
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 16:38:08 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hebrew-US hybred system

Seth Ness and I have been trying to make a combined US-Hebrew System 7.
I saw a similar set-up used to demo Nisus at MacWorld SF in Feb. Seth
copied what we believe were all the international resources into his US
system. I expected that he would be able to switch back and forth by
clicking on a small icon in the upper-right corner, but it does not
seem to work.

Here is my latest reply to his latest message to me.

>the icon in the upper right is an american flag. clicking on it just gives me
>a menu with two items, 1.about keyboards and 2. U.S.
>opening the keyboard control panel doesn't change anything.
>
Seth- I expected that clicking the US flag would change the small icon to
a small icon representing the Hebrew system. I thought if you did this
WHILE the keyboard control panel was open would give you additional feed-
back: specifically, different keyboards available.

Dear Netters-

I'm temporarily at a loss. Can anyone make any suggestions? Thanks-Pete

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Date: 1 Jun 92 11:37:12 U
From: "bnhirsch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info on Apple Israel (q)

Dear Netters,

Does anyone out there know how Apple Computer is structured in Israel?

Individuals at Yeda Computer and Software Company have inferred that they are
part of of Apple Computer and on some of their letterheads it even says 'Apple
Israel, LTD'.  Yeda was the only distributor of Apple Computers for many years,
which means that they had the monopoly here.  They had also developed the
Hebrew System software and distributed it.

In the last couple of years other companies have begun selling Macintosh
products here and it was recently announced that Apple USA  has begun
distributing System 7.0.1 Hebrew.  I have heard a rumor that Apple USA took
back the rights (and control of development).

There are also times when Yeda says they are not Apple USA.  When I first came
here I brought a new SE/30 from the US.  When the Quantum hard drive died Yeda
would not honor the warranty because they were Apple Israel and I had bought it
in the US.  Apple Europe would honor the warranty though and most likely Apple
Egypt would have too.  I naively thought that Apple was Apple no matter which
country you were in.

So my question is, Is Yeda part of Apple or are they only an authorized
distributor of Apple products?

I am not trying to bash Yeda.  I am only seeking information. Many people here
are afraid to buy computers in the US or from other Apple representatives in
Israel because they will not have an Apple warranty.

This cannot be right (Can it?).

Also, if anyone has information of who at Apple to contact about the University
discount program, would you please contact me?  Our graduate school is
registered in New York and may qualify for the program.  Currently faculty,
students and staff buy Macs here at the same  'bargain' prices as retail (plus
import and value added tax).


Thank you, David

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 17:25:27 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: init programming

I'd like to get into init programming, but it
is very hard to find any practical information
on programming inits. Any pointers to sample code in
Think C or THink Pascal, books, texts ... are welcome.

Karl
[e-mail]

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Date: MON, 01 Jun 92 11:02:30 EDT
From: "Louis_Bergeron"[e-mail]
Subject: Installers and updaters

Why most softwares companies now have installers and updaters.
It's like we are too stupid to install the products ourselves.
Sometimes it would be interesting to really understand what is
happening.
Some installers are just copying the new software over the old
one. Are we that dumb?
A good case is the Tuneup 1.0 and 1.1.1. Why not tell us to simply
copy the new drivers over the old ones, add the new chooser
and install the Tuneup Init. Why the installer for something so
simple? If a patch is applied to the System, why not tell us?
With updaters, you are never sure that everything was fine.
I think it would be simpler to send the whole Init? The only
advantage is when you want to donwload the updater.
I know that the softwares companies won't listen, but who knows.
Louis Bergeron [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 08:48:39 -0600
From: [e-mail] (George Wang)
Subject: Looking for old version of OIDS game

I recently found an OIDS version 1.3 updater program on the
INFO-MAC archives (game directory).. It requires an older version
of OIDS in order to work. Does anyone know of where I can find
an old version of the OIDS game?
Thanks
George

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 18:04:34 EST
From: [e-mail] (Mak Rusli)
Subject: MacClassic

Hi. I got a complain about running word 5.0 on the classic.
The person says that the program does not run with 4Mb of RAM.
So, I just want to know anyone out there has a similar problem.

In conjuction with the issue of RAM in the classic, I was
wondering whether the memory can be increased beyond 4Mb ?

Another question :
What kind of communication program (using modem) that can be
used to download files from server ?

Thanks in advance.

Mak Rusli
Dept. of Computing and Info. Sc.
University of Guelph
Guelph, ONT, N1G 2W1
Canada

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 09:36:32 SET
From: Marco Simionato <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac related stores in Muenchen, Germany

I'll be visting Muenchen next week and I would like to buy some
Addison & Wesley books I can't find at my local bookstore (Venice, Italy).
I would also like to see what educational prices for Mac's are there.
Any pointers to places worth a visit highly appreciated.

Please reply directly to me.

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 09:15:22 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Bo Holst-Christensen)
Subject: MacTools DeLuxe / Central Point Software

I have received a price for upgrading MacTools DeLuxe to version 2.0, from
Central Point Software, International. The price was UK#49.- + UK#10.-
totalling about US$ 110.-.
By checking the price for version 2.0 at mailorder houses, I found that the
price for the package is around US$ 80.-. + US$ 10.- for handling/shipping.
I have seen the messages the last few digests about version 2.0, and
concluded that there's no reason to upgrade, especially if the upgrade
costs more than a new package.
MacTools was one of the first programs I bought back in 1984, and have
since upgraded about 10 times. I have always found their upgrade policy
reasonable, but this seems to have changed.
Does anyone have an email address for CP Software ?

Thanks

   Bo Holst-Christensen
   [e-mail]     [e-mail]     FAX: [phone]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 13:39:05 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mirroring Software (Q)

We are investigating using two large hard drives (600 MB-1 GB) with mirroring
software for backing up our AppleShare server. Any advice about hardware and
(esepcially) software would be appreciated. Advice on related points are also
welcome (organization, etc.)

Please reply directly to [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 10:42 PDT
From: Ed Costello <[e-mail]>
Subject: Monitor size (Q)

Greetings,
    I have a Sony 1304 (14") monitor.  It is connected to a IIci.  The color
is beautiful, but the screen size is the same as the standard Apple 13" monitor.
 How can I make the screen size larger.  "Larger" here means a higher pixel
count, not stretching the same number of pixels to fit the screen.  Anyone have
a remedy for this?

Thanks,

- Ed

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 15:44:56 -0400
From: Keefe Hayes <[e-mail]>
Subject: MORE "Upgrade" offer from tiger software

reply to murph sewell -
i recently ordered the MORE upgrade from tiger software.  i received it
promptly, and it was version 3.1.  i am very pleased with it.  note that the
install doc in the 3.0 manual that comes with it says it should have 5
diskettes, but the read me file says 3.1 ships everything on only 3.  the
manuals are for 3.0, with a set of small "new features" pamphlets for 3.1.
hypercard 2.1 did the same thing, and it is kind of a nuisance, but i can
understand the cost of reprinting everything.  it is a fully registerable copy,
so you should be able to get support, upgrades etc.  the sum ii package has big
stickers on the registration that says you can't get a free upgrade to num ii,
but must pay the regular upgrade price.  but num ii for $39 sounds ok.  when i
talked to the guy at tigersoft he said that they are working with the software
companies to offer these special promotions.  anyway, this was one offer that i
was pleased to jump at. now how about that visa gold offer?
good luck
keefe hayes

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 16:13:44 -0400
From: Paul Schwarz <[e-mail]>
Subject: More Disk Space (Q)

With all the discussion recently about file compression programs, I
was wondering if anyone has had any experience with More Disk Space by
Alysis?

Thanks much.

-Paul Schwarz
 Cornell Theory Center
 [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 10:03 CDT
From: "Eric Williams, M2 MCW" <[e-mail]>
Subject: My query on Marble Madness

Awhile back I posted a query concerning whether a version of "Marble Madness"
(the arcade game) had been programmed for the Mac (it has been for the IIGS).
Although I had several replies asking to forward any information I received,
I received no substantive replies.  So either they never made one, or the
people who know are too busy playing it to reply... ;)
 ---------

Eric Williams, M3 Med College of Wisconsin
[e-mail]
AOL:Kerok

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Date: 1 Jun 92 17:56:14
From: Mike Schatzberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: None

                       Subject:                               Time:5:52 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          None                                   Date:6/1/92
BSAbITS#001/1-May-92 and #002/1-June-92
=======================================

 Here is issue 1 of BSAbITS, a newsletter about
   Boy Scouting and Apple Macintosh computers. It has
   been emailed to all subscribers.

Topics covered include Intro to BSAbITS and its editor,
   Scouting and Macintosh.

 For more information or to subscribe, send your name,
 address and email address to: [e-mail].

 ---------- cut here and file as BSAbITS.001 ---------------

BSAbITS#001/1-May-92
====================

 This is the first issue of BSAbITS, a newsletter about Boy
   Scouting and computers.

 Copyright 1992 Mike Schatzberg. Non-profit,
   non-commercial publications may reprint articles if full
   credit is given. Other publications please contact us. We
   do not guarantee the accuracy of articles. Publication,
   product, and company names may be registered trademarks
   of their companies.  This newsletter is not connected
   to the Boy Scouts of America.  All opinions expressed are
   those of their authors.

 For more information, to subscribe or to submit an article
 send email to [e-mail] or
 Mike Schatzberg, Salomon Inc, 745 Route 3, Rutherford, NJ 07070 USA


BSAbits - The Newsletter
 -----------------------
  I would envision this newsletter as an intermittently
  issued product whenever there is something to communicate
  to all you folks on the mailing list.  This will happen
  only if you help me with your contributions.  I would
  like to trade graphics, answer questions (a-la
  comp.sys.mac.digest), review programs of use to Scouting,
  and anything else that seems to fit.


Who am I ?
 ---------
  Let me introduce myself - my name is Mike Schatzberg and
  I am a volunteer Scouter in the Essex Council in New
  Jersey, USA.  I am an Assistant Scoutmaster in Troop 3,
  Caldwell, New Jersey, my son's Troop.  I am also the
  District Activity Chairman, as well as a unit
  commissioner.  I am working on my Wood Badge ticket,
  having finished the course last fall. Professionally, I
  am a computer technology manager at Salomon Brothers Inc,
  an investment banking firm.  I enjoy combining computers
  and Scouting.  Having become an addict of mac.digest and
  the other Mac newsgroups on Usenet, you can add
  networking to the list.  I am, of course a Mac addict.  I
  use a Mac IIci at work and have a Mac IIsi at home.


Using Mac's for Scouting
 -----------------------
  I am always using my Macintosh for Scouting.  I do flyers
  with Pagemaker, maps with MacDraw Pro, documents with
  Microsoft Word and Pagemaker.  As this issue is written,
  I am creating a 30 page leader's guide for our camp, a
  price and services guide for all my Council's camps, an
  Interpretive Trail Guide, a Cub Scout summer camp map and
  several District fund raising brochures.  My District
  annual dinner brochure was printed and distributed last
  week.  These uses are all graphic in nature.  I also use
  Microsoft Excel to produce budget documents for events
  and courses.  My scanner is used to convert printed
  artwork into digital format.

  I have not used any of the "Troop Management and
  Tracking" programs available for the Mac.  Anyone who
  knows about any such programs, please send me a review
  and see your name in print.


Thanks to Adam and Tonya
 -----------------------
  If the format of this newsletter is familiar, you must
  be a subscriber to a wonderful Macintosh newsletter
  called TidBITS, published by Adam and Tonya Engst.  If
  you own a Mac, you really should be on their mailing
  list.  My thanks goes out to the Engsts for their
  permission to borrow their newsletter's format.  To
  receive their newsletter, send email to: [e-mail]


The next issue
 -------------
  The next issue of this newsletter is dependent on your
  communicating with me.  What graphics can you share ?
  Can you review a program based on your experiences ?
  Can we set up an anonymous file server to hold archives
  or use space on sumex or elsewhere ?  What would you like
  to see in this newsletter ?  Next newsletter will contain
  info about computers and the National Jamboree.  Till
  then.  Yours in Scouting, Mike Schatzberg

..


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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 92 00:46:24 CDT
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Object oriented Pascal successfully called from ancient modula 2 implementation!

I got a modula caller linking in an OO pascal unit and can now test
modules with SADE and all the new good stuff!!!

Below ";" sometimes stand for tabs and "6" for line continuation character.

MODULE FactorialUnitProg;
>From InOut IMPORT ReadInt,WriteInt,WriteLn;
>From InsideMac IMPORT MoveTo;
>From ResourceDoIt IMPORT InitEverything;
>From PascalProcs IMPORT Factorial;

VAR
    N,F:INTEGER;

BEGIN (*FactorialUnitProg*)
    InitEverything;
    MoveTo(20,20);

    ReadInt(N);
    WriteLn;
    WriteInt(Factorial(N),6);
    WriteLn;

    ReadInt(N);
    WriteLn;
    WriteInt(Factorial(N),6);
    WriteLn;
END FactorialUnitProg.

DEFINITION MODULE PascalProcs;
EXPORT QUALIFIED Factorial;
PROCEDURE Factorial (N:INTEGER):INTEGER;
END PascalProcs.

IMPLEMENTATION MODULE PascalProcs;
PROCEDURE Factorial (N:INTEGER):INTEGER;EXTERNAL;
END PascalProcs.

UNIT FactorialUnit;
INTERFACE
       FUNCTION Factorial(N:INTEGER):INTEGER;
IMPLEMENTATION
    FUNCTION Factorial (N:INTEGER):INTEGER;
    BEGIN
        IF (N>1)
        THEN
            Factorial:=N*Factorial(N-1)
        ELSE
            Factorial:=1
    END;
END.


Using the assist of the Build Menu
(as recommended by John Perser of Dallas in phone call, see Developer CD series)
and map files from totally pascal unit user,

I realized that the alias needed was all capitals!
I also realized that the pascal main program on linking needed Libraries and
Plibraries folders' stuff to resolve %_END, %_TERM, %_INIT, and %_BEGIN.

I imagine we have a single pass linker that goes down resolving relocatable refe
When linker hits FactorialUnitProg, it must know enough to
raise the equivalent question of resolution and
be satisfied to seek FACTORIAL to resolve PascalProcs_Factorial.
PascalProcs raises the question that FactorialUnit resolves
and thus it must appear later.

Link -w -t APPL -c '????' 6
    -ma PascalProcs_Factorial=FACTORIAL 6
    "Source:Source D:External Expt D:FactorialUnitProg.m.o" 6
    "Source:Source D:External Expt D:PascalProcs.m.o" 6
    'Source:Source D:External Expt D:FactorialUnit.p.o' 6
    "{Libraries}"Interface.o 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:InOut.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:InsideMac.m.o" 6
    "Source:Source D:MyModules D:ResourceDoIt.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:Terminal.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:Storage.m.o" 6
    "Source:Source D:MyModules D:MyInOut.m.o" 6
    "Source:Source D:MyModules D:SayIt.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:Strings.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:PStrings.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:Conversions.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:RealConversions.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:Sane.m.o" 6
    "Programming:MPW Shell D:MPW:MLibraries:IEEEConversions.m.o" 6
    -o "Source:Source D:External Expt D:FactorialUnitProg" 6
    -map -l -la -lf > "{MySources}External Expt D:FactorialUnitProg.map"

Hurrah!!!
Acknowledge-To: <LZCB@UTDALLAS>

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 16:43 GMT
From: GEOFF WALL <[e-mail]>
Subject: Polish TrueType Font

Does anybody know where I can get hold of Polish TrueType fonts?

Geoff Wall
Dept of English
University of York

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 00:51:48 PDT
From: [e-mail] (James Davis)
Subject: Quicktime, compression, QT Batch compressor (Q)

Sorry to ask a probably simple question, but why:
Why wont QT Batch Compressor (found at summex I believe, or maybe Apple)
recognize my QT movies.  I know they are real movies because I can play
them with "Simple Player", so why wont it recognize them? Neither
drag n drop, or from within the app.  ideas?  Im sure this is supposed
to be simple, like the time I couldnt figure out how to segment files
in compactor.  sheshh.. and to think Im a CS major..
anyway, thanks for help,

James Davis ([e-mail]) : University California, Davis

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 10:49 PDT
From: Ed Costello <[e-mail]>
Subject: Remote Appletalk (Q)

Greetings,
    What else do I need in order to access nodes on an Appletalk network
remotely (via modem)?

    Configuration:
        Node 1:    4MB Plus, Tuned Sys. 7, Appletalk
        Node 2: 5MB IIci, Tuned Sys. 7, Appletalk
        HP Deskwriter C

    I know I need a modem connected to the Appletalk net somehow.  Is this
done through one of the nodes, or directly to the Appletalk wire?  What software
do I need for either end of the connection?

    Thanks in advance to the net-wizards . . .

- Ed

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 16:14:04 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Restoring icons in System 7

I asked if anyone knew how to easily restore icons once students
on different machines changes the icons using Get Info in System 7.

I received several replies. The best so far was from Robert Wilson:

>I think you can delete the invisible file called icon in the folders
>where icons are changed or at least drag into the trash can until you
>reboot.  I don't think the system would let you throw them away as they
>are in use.

Thanks. I did not get a chance to try it.

>I haven't tried it, but if it works, maybe someone should
>write a utility that scans drives and does this automagically.

Sounds like a great suggestion.-Pete Tamas

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 21:26:47 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Screen updates stop with random disk accesses

I'm experiencing a wierd (to me) problem. When I have any activity that
displays the watch symbol, many times I'll notice some disk activity
at the same time that the screen stops updating. A scrolling list box
(usually on America Online, but in other programs too) will update, and
then stop. The SuperClock will stop, all screen activity freezes. When I
press the mouse button, screen activity returns, and 'catches up' quickly.
It is as if the activity was going on throughout.

I'm using a IIcx with 8 meg RAM in non-32 bit mode and System 7.0.1 with the
following extensions and control panels:
Exten: Suitcase 2.1, MacRecorder 1.02, QuickTime, Central Point Scheduler
  Extension, Caps Lock, ImageWriter chooser rdev, HandsOff II 2.2.1 SuperMenu,
  System 7 TuneUp 1.1.1, TelePort/Fax 2.02
CP: Mode32, ATM 2.03, HandsOffII 2.21, SuperClock 2.91, Central Point Mirror,
  Central Point Anti-Virus (all parts of the MacTools 2.0), AfterDark 2.0V,
  MacEnvy 2.1, APS Power Tools Assist 1.4, SCSI Probe 3.4, TelePort 2.02,
  Talking Moose 4.01, WallPaper 1.01.
My hard drive is set to SCSI 0 and is an internal Maxtor 120MB. The video is a
Apple 4.8 card driving a Seiko CM1445 14" mon. Virtual memory is disabled. RAM
cache is set to 128K.

I've tried renaming, reordering and removing inits, to no apparent effect.
I'm at my wits end on this. Any clues you might have will be appreciated.

- Gary Goldberg [e-mail] (new address) Bowie, MD KA3ZYW

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1992 09:23:00 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Mike Brudenell)
Subject: Sending email to the UK (and york.ac.uk/uk.ac.york)

Hi, I'm Mike Brudenell - one of the Systems Programmers here in the
Computing Service at York University in the UK.  Just a quick note to
confirm that Murph is correct in saying mail should be sent to
"[e-mail]".  Currently this gets routed through a gateway to us, but
in the not too distant future will be able to come in straight to a mail
server.  The particular problem reaching user "sjs" was simply the username
was wrong!  (I have mailed the original sender)
--
            Mike B-)                                 [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 17:06:30 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Rainer Daeschler)
Subject: Sending email to the UK (C)

> >So, one more time.  In the UK they drive on the other side of the road
> >and use email addresses that run in the other direction.  To send mail
> >to sjs from the Internet side, turn it around to [e-mail] (York
> >isn't a domain, but UK is ;-)
>
> Wouldn't that imply that we in the Upper hemisphere should use upper case
> internet addresses and those down under should use lower case letters? :-)
>
> Kee
> [e-mail]

Kee, it is even worse. Look at our mates in Australia and Newzealand,
they always write the email-addresses whith the terminal turned
upside down ;-)

-Rainer

  Rainer Daeschler         | [e-mail]
  Tuebingen University
  Dep. of Japanese & Korean Studies

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1992 11:30:56 EDT
From: "From the Executive Office of: Sean A. Barnett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Subscribing?

How can I subscribe to your newsgroup?

Also, I was wondering if you could help me with a problem?
I have a demo of MusicWorks for the mac, but everytime I try to
load it, it says not enough memory?  The application itself is
only 66K, I have about 2MB of memory?   Is this normal?

Do you have shareware demos of this program or musicial selections that
are available for this program?

Thanks, Sean

in%"[e-mail]"

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 92 15:39:40 SST
From: [e-mail] (Tng Tai Hou)
Subject: SuperCard Xcmd for QuickTime please!

Help. I am desparately looking for the QuickTime xcmds (with source if
possible) that will work with SuperCard. Can some one please point me
to the ftp site?

Thanks.

Tai Hou
Singapore

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Date: MON, 01 Jun 92 11:03:32 EDT
From: "Louis_Bergeron"[e-mail]
Subject: SuperClock

With System 7, it's possible to create a clock like SuperClock. It's very easy.
Open the Alarm Clock and position it to the upper left corner. After that,
create an Alias of the Alarm Clock and put that alias in the Startup Items
folder. After that, the clock will automatically be opened when tbe Mac boots
and will position itself to the same location. The only problem is that after
opening and quitting a few softwares or using SuperLaserSpool it will fragment
the memory. The cure is simple: close it and all the opened softwares. Don't
reboot for nothing. The clock takes 20K.
Louis Bergeron [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 00:25:28 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Joshua John Hart)
Subject: System 7.0.1 Freezing?

 Hi netters,
     I have been having a small problem with my mac. The Finder freezes

at seemingly random times. Here is my configuration:

     Macintosh SE Running system 7.0.1 with the latest tuneup (1.1.1 I

believe) 20 meg hard drive 4 meg ram and an external Cutting Edge hard

drive.

     The mac seems to freeze at unpredictable times. Once it froze in

the finder while I had Zterm downloading in the background. The odd

thing is that even though the finder froze (I could not access any

menus, the "Sleep now" and "Never Sleep" corners defined for AfterDark

would not work. Somehow through all of this, Ztern was still doenloading

and updating it's own screen. This is only one example of the finder

freezing up!
     Thus far, the oly way I have been able to get out of this situation

has been to do a control-command-Escape to force the finder to quit.

This may have solved the problem in the short term, but looking ahead,

is this some new virus I've been infected with? (I should not that to

try to fix the problem I reinstalled system 7.0.1 and the tuneup, but

the problem still persisted.)

     I have noticed the same problem on a Mac IIsi, but much less

frequently. Am I imagining things or what??

                                        Thanks,
                                             Joshua

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 12:33:19 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Teaching RAM vs. Disk Space

On Mon, 1 Jun 1992 09:30:34 -0600 Igor Livshits said:
>>here's a good one. i was arguing with someone over whether we should use
>>multifinder or finder on the lab mac. he said that there wasn't enough
>>memory under multifinder to run some applications. i pointed out that we
>>had 4 MB, and none of our applications needed much more than 1 MB. so he
>>said, yeah, but if multifinder is on theres not enough memory to run several
>>applications at once. can you believe that?
>
Seth's anecdote (above) is the type of conversation I really HATE
getting in to. Some people can not learn things because something
else is in their brain which they think contradicts it. For example,
in high school equivalency math (GED) the following is hard to teach:
   5 - (-2) = 7
After all, the student thinks, how can you add if you are subtracting?
>
>I agree, that's a funny anecdote...but, it does have a point.  Running
>MultiFinder, people do not quit applications,they merely close documents.
>When they try to open the Nth application and get the "no mem" error, they
>get very confused.  You must teach them to quit first.

That is why I teach beeginners using 6.0.x using finder and later
move them to Multifinder then System 7.

>By the way, most
>people who complained of this problem thought they need more disk space.

This must be taught early, soon after they learn "What is an application."
Using Finder, I say that Finder is in memory. I have them verify that by
checking the "About the Finder" under the Apple menu. Then, they open
an application and I tell them that this app is in memory, which they
verify by checking the About menu in the Apple menu.

Then I make my analogy that disk space is like a calender while memory
is analogously like our memory. I tell them I can only remember a few
appointments at a time but I can read the appointments from my calender
any time. Once I read these, they will be in my memory.

Then we go over a handout where the student has to answer (in writing)
if memory (RAM), disk space or both are being used. I use the key words
Open, Save, etc.

Finally, I tell them that if they don't call disk space memory, they'll
be OK, but if they DO call disk space memory, they will succeed only in
outfoxing themselves.

If I don't teach the student this very early, it becomes a 30 minute
process to teach it because they are CONVINCED that memory and disk
space are the same. -- Pete Tamas

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 20:44:53 CDT
From: Reverend John <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tiger Software (C)

Yeah I had a poor experience of sorts..after admiring the Software
Toolworks World Atlas ads Tiger Software ran, I ordered it and got it
short time. An update to work on my LC followed right away. They even
gave me some of that anti-static spray free.

Sounds good, right? Well, in Tiger's ads for the World Atlas, they
show several screen shots. Some of them are of large-scale maps showing
multiple countries..one in particular, however, clearly showed a
smaller-scale map of the U.S., in fact one section of California (I
think) showing cities, towns, and major highways.

I ordered the program, impressed that it would give that level of
detail. It didn't.

In fact, it didn't go to that scale; there were no highway maps of
the sort pictured in the screen shots.

A call to Tiger confirmed that that one picture was a mistake, it
was actually from the U.S. Atlas program from Software Toolworks
which was (and I think still is) ONLY available on PC's. They had
no idea when the U.S. one might be available, which is the one that
would show highways and the like.

I kept the program, because it still had a lot in it. Tiger didn't
offer a refund, but then again I didn't ask. On the other hand, I
know I've seen that same darn screen shot of U.S. highways in their
ads since then...how recently, I don't know.

I recently got a big glossy catalog from them..their prices weren't
bad (the CD ROM bundles looked interesting, actually) but I think
I'll pass on future orders with them.

Rev

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 11:37:33 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Type -39 Error

On Sun, 31 May 1992 21:05:32 GMT you said:
>I'm having trouble getting one of my programs to run.  Every time I double
>click it, I just get a Type -39 error.  This happened to me before, and
>more and more applications started having this kind of problem.  What
>exactly does this mean anyway?

Error -39 is end of file not found.  Usually it means the application,
or possibly a prefs file it loads on startup, isn't there anymore.  I've
had it happen on rare occasions (probably a result of a system crash).
The inevitable solution has been to replace the clobbered file from
backup.

If you are having "more and more" of this problem, you should run Disk
First Aid and Norton's Disk Doctor or MacTool's 2.0 DiskFix (you may
have a disk directory in need of repair).

How long has it been since you defragmented your drive?  The combination
of a fault in the disk's extents directory and a highly fragmented drive
can sure lead to lost ends of files.

BTW (as long as I'm on the soap box): My impressions of MacTools 2.0.

Mirrors is EONS slower than the earlier version (I sure hope it's that
much better in the event I need to recover something because it sure is
annoying when it kicks in).

Maybe I just don't understand CP DiskEdit (geez, I might actually have
to read the manual :).  I don't see the handy verify file and disk
commands that the earlier FileEdit has (so I've kept FileEdit around).

I don't really miss FastCopy because I prefer Apple's DiskCopy (because
it makes copies to unformatted disks without requiring the delay of
formatting).

DiskFix may be worth the price of the package.  I've been having a
disagreement between Disk First Aid and Norton's Disk Doctor about the
proper number of nodes in my drive's B-tree (each wanted to reverse the
other's "repair").  DiskFix agrees with Disk First Aid.  Disk Doctor and
DiskFix argue about the proper setting of bundle bits on the same three
or four files (darned if I know which is right about that -- I guess
I'll have to wait until some document can't find it's application to
sort that one out).  DiskFix seems slower than DiskDoctor (maybe it
works harder :) although I'm not entirely sure that's perceptual rather
than actual (Disk Doctor has more little animations while it's working).

It may be some time before we know whether DiskDoctor or DiskFix are
better or about the same.

MacTool's Optimizer will now prioritize by dates as well as file types
which is handy since AutoDoubler makes practically everything that's not
in the System Folder look like a document (one of these days CP or
Norton will get together with Salient and write an optimizer that can
find the real type/creator in an AD document).

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Date: Sun, 31 May 92 22:42:29 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Unix tar.Z format [Q]

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>   I'm real new to unix and I would like to ftp the popper pop3 server
>that was mentioned here a few days ago.  I take it that the tar.Z
>suffix means it was first tar'ed, then zipped.  Can anyone tell me where
>I can find the zip program that the .Z indicates?  Tell me if I'm all
>wet here! ;-)   Thanks.

First tar'ed, then compressed using the Unix compress command.  To unpack
a tar.Z file, get it onto your unix system, then use 'uncompress <filename>'
to uncompress it.  You'll then have a tar file that you can extract with
'tar -xvf <filename>'.

You're not all wet!  Everybody's new to something...

RM

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 12:11:42 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Unix tar.Z format [R]

In I-MD #131, Randy Bradley writes:
>   I'm real new to unix and I would like to ftp the popper pop3 server
>that was mentioned here a few days ago.  I take it that the tar.Z
>suffix means it was first tar'ed, then zipped.  Can anyone tell me where
>I can find the zip program that the .Z indicates?  Tell me if I'm all
>wet here! ;-)   Thanks.

Not quite, Randy.  Files with the tar.Z suffix have been tar'ed and then
*compressed*.  Use the unix "uncompress" command on the file.  Then you
will have a tar (Tape ARchive) file.  Run the .tar file through the unix
tar utility (with the -x option) to get your files out.  One command
*EVERY* Unix user should know is "man".  Type "man uncompress" and "man
tar" for info about how to use these commands. I recommend reading the
entire man page on a command before using it.  They aren't very long,
and they can save you a tremendous amount of time.

-- Glenn Fink
"I [love|hate] Unix!"

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 14:05:10 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Daniel C. Stegman)
Subject: Virtus Walkthrough Demo

Is there a Virtus Walkthrough Demo on sumex somewhere?!?  I called Virtus
and they replied that they only have demos on America Online & CompuServe.
It could have migrated to sumex, and I have no way to ftp there, but I do
have ftp-mail capabilities, and anonymous mail requests ability.
Much appreciated in advance...
Dan Stegman (usr9108a @ tso.uc.edu)

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 15:59:20 SET
From: Matthias <[e-mail]>
Subject: WORD-MAC, how to (re-)subscribe

Hello everybody,
due to some confusion, I was unable to resubscribe to the WORD-MAC list
after it had moved to LOKI.UNE.EDU.AU . The address that had been given
in WORD-MAC, Vol 10 Nr 37 was just wrong. One kind user finally mailed
me the correct account to mail (thanks again, Jerry). Since I also got
some mail from other poeple with subscribtion problems I repeat the
correct address here.

To subscribe to the WORD-MAC list, send mail to
[e-mail]
with the body text
SUCBSCRIBE WORD-MAC firstname lastname

Good luck, Matthias

Matthias Schroder
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 9:46:54 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Word 5 and typeing delays

    I have noticed that after I installed Word 5 there is a slight
    but ever so annoying delay after I type each letter in a document.
    I increased the memory allocation and put the application on a
    different hard drive but I still get the same annoying delay.
    Any ideas or common experiences?

    Troy Kelley

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